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January 13, 2012 by Skyla
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Please welcome Krista D. Ball with a guest post today!

Lesbians don't have wives, or Finding the Right Writing Group

Folks love to join writing groups. I even suggest that people join them to get a handle on their work, learn new skills, and figure out how to best present their work. There's so much good that can come from a writing group. And so, so much bad.

Over the years, I've gravitated away from the group RAWR RAWR environment where all that happens is your work gets line edited. Nevermind that my plot fails the Magic Cell Phone test*; it has a missing comma and everyone knows editors will reject books with incorrect commas. (As a side note, this is a myth I disprove with each acceptance).

A few years ago, I was running Road to Hell through a critique group. I had written a fairly basic after-hours military scene. I got a critique back that told me I was wrong and to talk to people who actually knew something about the military.

So, I talked to myself. I was a weekend warrior with the Canadian military for a year or two (I actually forget how long). It was a part time job during university. My ex husband? Reg force. My brother? Regs. Other brother? Regs. Other brother? Retired reg force. Brother's spouse? Full-time reserves. See, it wasn't that my scene was incorrect, but that it wasn't correct according to his idea of how military folks should act. But, I let it slide.

Then, Captain Francis was unveiled as a *gasp* lesbian. What was my dark science fiction novel was now the lesbian space captain story (a label that has stuck). The space matter hit the fan when Katherine called her wife her, you know, wife. I was told by several people that it should be partner or, if I must, spouse. But never wife. Lesbians don't have wives; they have partners. (In Canada, they have wives, thank you very much).

Even though I had a rather major plot hole, which I didn't fix until years later, the writing group were focused on nitpicky things that were in fact not even errors. I eventually left and joined a small group of authors who were all around the same skill level as myself. I no longer get 20 critiques of my work, but I also get "you have a plot hole" comments, as opposed to "lesbians don't have wives."

I've learned a couple of things when searching out writing groups. Here's what I found:

1. Personality. Never underestimate the power of personality clashes. I have seen successful groups ripped apart by nothing more than two people not liking each other.

2. Goals. We are all in different spots in our writing careers; some of us don't even have careers. We also have different goals. It's important to belong to groups that encourage and support your goals, as opposed to get jealous, discourage, or belittle your goals.

3. Feedback. If you've never gotten feedback about your work, you might need an easy, light touch the first time around. Some people don't, but many people do bristle when they first getting into writing groups. I was told that I'd caused someone to never write again (if she couldn't handle me saying "I spent 4 hours writing this out for you because I think this story has excellent potential and is worth working on" she couldn't have handled her first 1 star review as an author saying "I wish I could give this a 0.")

At the same time, back patting can only last so long. Folks talk about self-publishing because there are no "gatekeepers" to prevent them from publishing. Yeah, but instead of being rejected by publishers, you'll be rejected by readers who paid money to look at your work. It sure doesn't get easier.

4. Commitment. If you only have 2 hours a week of quiet time where you can write, do you really want to be spending it critiquing 8 stories that you hate?

*Magic Cell Phone Test: Can your heroine get out of this sticky situation by the use of a cell phone or magic? If so, there better be a damn good reason why she has neither.

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About the Author: Krista D. Ball is a Canadian speculative fiction author who is currently hiding from necromancers. Better safe than undead. www.kristadball.com

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#1 "I reject your comma and

January 13, 2012 by Marie Dees (not verified)

"I reject your comma and substitute my own!"

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#2 Writing Groups

January 13, 2012 by Frances (not verified)

Seriously brilliant. I've seen the good the bad and the ugly in writing groups. Schisms aside, If you can find a good one that works well and actually helps you out, never ever let it go! :)

Frances

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#3 Great post Krista! I find

January 13, 2012 by Coral (not verified)

Great post Krista!

I find that 4 is really my biggest problem in these groups. There's an expectation that you're going to finish all the stories, even the really, really bad ones.

Also, the pressure to always be nice is definitely there. It makes me a little twitchy.

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#4 LOL.It can be very very hard

January 13, 2012 by Camille LaGuire (not verified)

LOL.

It can be very very hard to find good critique groups for cozy or traditional mysteries. And when you do, they can be filled with, well, I think I can top your "Lesbians don't have wives."

In my first chapter one character is reading a quickly put together dossier on another character. It has the sort of info you can get from public records, and it mentions that she's a registered Democrat who has never missed a vote in 20 years.

I was told firmly that this was too controversial, and that it must be excised from the story.

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#5 Yep, I have to agree with

January 13, 2012 by Marie Dees (not verified)

Yep, I have to agree with Camille on this one. Some critique groups have no one who works in cozy mystery. Other writers don't always understand the genre, to the point where I've had critiquers who couldn't grasp the concept that -- no, I don't need to reveal "whodunit" in the first chapter. Yes, the reader will wonder who it is. That's the point!

Six years ago when "Tea and Witchery" first came out, I ran into some objections over Patrick and Rafe being a gay couple. Not because people necessarily objected to gay characters but I think because their relationship wasn't some sort of secret clue that had to be revealed as a motive. They were an established couple and everyone already knew that. But I wasn't doing what was expected at the time.

Rather than a critique group sometimes you just need a few good friends who will follow the entire novel.

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#6 Democrats are controversial?

January 13, 2012 by Krista D. Ball (not verified)

Ok, you've topped mine!

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#7 How did I miss this??? And

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January 13, 2012 by Lori T. Strongin

How did I miss this???

And yeah...word to the wise: avoid writing groups where those giving "advice" haven't published anything themselves since the 1970s and happily share their knowledge base and want to mentor you because they're so good at it but can't provide a single book title or client referral as proof.

*cough* Sorry, got off track there a minute...

Smiles!
Lori

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